Jamie, back for the second half of her life story, shares with us the loves of her life, her black family. We know this is not an easy topic. Both Eli and Laura found the conversation to be enlightening, spiritual, comforting and challenging. What more could we hope for...on this episode, we hear that it's ok to fail but we MUST be on the anti-racist journey. Jamie is kind,  compassionate, and serious about her life's calling. Please take the time to listen. It's worth the time. Thanks so much for joining us for this poignant episode.

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